This site uses cookies to maintain login information on FarmallCub.Com. Click the X in the banner upper right corner to close this notice. For more information on our privacy policy, visit this link:
Privacy Policy

NEW REGISTERED MEMBERS: Be sure to check your SPAM/JUNK folders for the activation email.

Super A idle problem

Farmall Super A, AV, 100, 130, & 140 1939 - 1973
Forum rules
Notice: For sale and wanted posts are not allowed in this forum. Please use our free classifieds or one of our site sponsors for your tractor and parts needs.
matt2820
Posts: 9
Joined: Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:57 am
Zip Code: 18972

Super A idle problem

Postby matt2820 » Thu Aug 10, 2023 12:21 pm

I have a 52 Super A that defies to run at idle. I've had the head off, cleaned, replace valves, springs and seals. I've rebuilt the Zenith carburetor and taken the front cover off the governor to check that the weights moved freely and there were no broken springs. All the forgoing seem good and correct. The tractor will start but it seems regardless of what I do the engine continues to surge and eventually will stall itself out. I made a slight adjustment to the governor but still not idling at all. Is there something obvious I'm missing? Also it seems regardless of where the single carburetor adjustment is set it makes no difference with the idle Thanks

User avatar
Don McCombs
Team Cub Mentor
Team Cub Mentor
Posts: 17494
Joined: Mon Feb 03, 2003 6:45 am
Zip Code: 21550
Tractors Owned: "1950 Something" Farmall Cub
1957 Farmall Cub w/FH
1977 International Cub w/FH
1978 International Cub
1948 Farmall Super A
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: MD, Deep Creek Lake

Re: Super A idle problem

Postby Don McCombs » Fri Aug 11, 2023 6:54 am

If you haven’t already done it, I would check the entire fuel system, from the fuel cap to the manifold for an obstruction.
Don McCombs
MD, Deep Creek Lake

Image
Proud Member of Maryland Chapter 39

The best teachers are those who show you where to look, but don't tell you what to see.
A. K. Trenfor

Gary Dotson
Team Cub Mentor
Team Cub Mentor
Posts: 5643
Joined: Thu Aug 03, 2006 6:20 am
Zip Code: 43358
Tractors Owned: 48 Cub Diesel (Cubota)
53 Cockshutt 20 restored (Shooter)
52 Cockshutt 20 unrestored
47 Leader "B" (Herckie)
49 Leader "D" (Princess)
49 Leader "D" very rough
48 Leader "D" unrestored
Kubota B6200E
Kubota B6200HST
Kubota B8200HST-D
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: OH West Mansfield

Re: Super A idle problem

Postby Gary Dotson » Fri Aug 11, 2023 7:24 am

The governor should have no influence over the ability to idle. My guess is that you still have a blocked passage in your carb. Don’t overlook things like ignition system and timing, they can often act like carb problem.

matt2820
Posts: 9
Joined: Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:57 am
Zip Code: 18972

Re: Super A idle problem

Postby matt2820 » Fri Aug 11, 2023 8:44 am

Thanks Don and Gary for the suggestions. Much appreciated

Jim Becker
Team Cub
Team Cub
Posts: 17279
Joined: Sun Feb 02, 2003 2:59 pm
Zip Code: 55319
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: MN

Re: Super A idle problem

Postby Jim Becker » Fri Aug 11, 2023 10:57 am

I noticed the key word "surge" in your question. Surging is usually governor behavior but doesn't usually show up at idle speed. Start with what Don and Gary suggested. If you still have surging, recheck the adjustment of the linkage between the governor and carburetor. The procedure is well documented in the manuals and in multiple posts on this site. After that, clean and adjust the bumper spring that is in the bottom of the governor.

matt2820
Posts: 9
Joined: Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:57 am
Zip Code: 18972

Re: Super A idle problem

Postby matt2820 » Tue Aug 15, 2023 8:59 am

Regarding the fuel cap. When I went on Steiner and Yesterdays Tractors, they have both vented and unvented caps that both are listed for a Super A. Which one is correct? Also Would substituting a simple throttle control (and bypassing the governor completely) work?? Many thanks for your help

User avatar
Dale Finch
10+ Years
10+ Years
Posts: 6684
Joined: Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:34 am
Zip Code: 27517
Tractors Owned: '51 Cub #140966 "Bruno" with Woods 59 mower
'55 Cub #187541 "Betty" with Fast Hitch
'55 Cub #190482 "Ben" with Woods 42 mower
'55 Cub #191739 "Bertha" with Woods 42 mower
'56 Cub #194370 "Boris" with Mott Flail mower
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: NC, Chapel Hill

Re: Super A idle problem

Postby Dale Finch » Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:58 am

Unless you are looking for "Original" for show, this is the replacement fuel cap...free due to a safety recall:
https://ihgascap.com/
Dale Finch
Image
Circle of Safety

Jim Becker
Team Cub
Team Cub
Posts: 17279
Joined: Sun Feb 02, 2003 2:59 pm
Zip Code: 55319
Circle of Safety: Y
Location: MN

Re: Super A idle problem

Postby Jim Becker » Tue Aug 15, 2023 11:58 am

The fuel cap needs to be vented. I don't know why vendors list an unvented cap, but it would be wrong.

Bypassing the governor is a terrible idea (and won't fix your problem). If it won't idle properly and the idle adjustment screw has no effect, your idle circuit inside the carburetor is probably plugged.

matt2820
Posts: 9
Joined: Sun Jan 22, 2023 11:57 am
Zip Code: 18972

Re: Super A idle problem

Postby matt2820 » Thu Aug 17, 2023 1:58 pm

Thank Jim and Dale


  • Similar Topics
    Replies
    Views
    Last post

Return to “Farmall A, Super A, AV, 100, 130 & 140”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests