Farmall C & Super C Tractors, 1948-1954
Sat May 20, 2006 3:34 pm
My SC has no serial tag. I understand that the serial number on the engine is not necessarily the same as the tractor. Using the engine, trans and rear end numbers and dates, is there anyway I can find out what the serial number for the tractor is?
Sat May 20, 2006 6:38 pm
You can coem up with an approxiamte serial, but not necessarily the roiginal one. All of the old records (if they ever existed) connecting engien serial numbers to tractor serial numbers are no longer available. the engien serial number will be a little higher than the tractor number, and the casting codes are the same across all the IH equipment, not matter whether it is cub, super C, Or M.
Mon May 22, 2006 8:12 am
Casting codes can help you determine when the parts were cast at the foundry, but not when the tractor was assembled. Engine serial number can get you CLOSE, but not real close, to the original serial number.
Basically, you're out of luck finding the ORIGINAL serial number, unless you can trace the tractor back to its original owner, and/or the dealer it came from. If the original owner isn't long since passed on, and/or the dealer long since gone out of business, you have a slim chance that they kept a copy of the original bill of sale for your tractor. On that bill of sale will be the original serial number.
Mon May 22, 2006 9:46 am
As best as I can tell, based on the tractor registry on YT and my engine ser# 203162, it is a '54 model. I guess that is what I'll have to settle for. The date codes are around March of the year Z. No one seems to know what year that is.
Thanks for the help!
Mon May 22, 2006 10:04 am
Z is 54
Mon May 22, 2006 7:08 pm
where do you guys get the casting codes
i got mine, but i don't trust the serial tag, nothing left of it... so what would T mean
like what year...
Wed May 24, 2006 6:03 pm
Thanks BD, but now that makes my life more complicated, the serial says it's a 51, T says 50
oh well, need to get it running before i worry about that
Wed May 24, 2006 6:06 pm
That would not be unusual Johnny. The castings all were cast and some had a lengthy cure time. In either case, castings are sub-assemblies that sat in inventory until needed on the production line. So tractors produced in 51 could easily have castings made in 50 that had sat in storage until needed. Typically, they would have been built early in the year using stuff produced late the previous year.
Wed May 24, 2006 7:02 pm
ok, thanks, that's makes sense
i also think that the engine has an R, but i dont' know about that....
Thu May 25, 2006 11:26 am
Make sure you're looking at casting codes, not the part numbers... Casting codes are "00 11 X" which indicate month, day, year. Part numbers are like 12345678R90, where R stands for "revision." Both numbers are cast into the block, whereas the serial number is stamped on a machined flat spot.
Fri May 26, 2006 8:09 am
I am having trouble seeing the casting date, but on the left side, as you are sitting on it, there is an S on a flat spot, I dont' think this tractor is all original, so that is my problem i think, alot of stuff has been welded etc
oh well, for 200$ i can't complain
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