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D Ring

Farmall C, Super C Tractors, 200 & 230 1948-1958
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D Ring

Postby ajhbike » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:35 pm

On the steering bolster (sp?) under the grill is a plate with 2 holes. Is this plate for lashing the tractor down? I saw a youtube where this collector went on at great length about the D ring for lashing down from the factory. The guy I was with today said he would never do that cause it wool damage the bolster.
What are those holes in the plate for?

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Re: D Ring

Postby Bob McCarty » Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:35 pm

The only holes I can visualize are where the crank goes into the bolster. I think George Willer made a tie down that screwed into the pulley, but doubt that a picture is still available after his passing. Can you post a link to the youtube?
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Re: D Ring

Postby Jim Becker » Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:48 pm

There were various implements that used a steering connection for one purpose or another. On the C, those 2 holes provided the steering connection.

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Re: D Ring

Postby Bob McCarty » Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:53 pm

Whoops, I was thinking Cub and didn't read the forum title.
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Re: D Ring

Postby ajhbike » Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:50 am

so they are not to be used for chaining during transport?

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Re: D Ring

Postby Jim Becker » Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:02 am

I wouldn't say absolutely no, but that certainly wasn't what they were designed for. I think a lot of people use them that way. I would rather come up with a bracket that uses the bolts on the side of the bolster.

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Re: D Ring

Postby Urbish » Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:05 am

I like the plates this guy made for his C:
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Otherwise a couple of quality lifting rings threaded into the cast iron on either side would probably be just fine.
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Re: D Ring

Postby Winfield Dave » Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:20 am

Bob McCarty wrote:The only holes I can visualize are where the crank goes into the bolster. I think George Willer made a tie down that screwed into the pulley, but doubt that a picture is still available after his passing. Can you post a link to the youtube?
Here ya go, Bob.

tiedown FRONT geo willer.jpg
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Re: D Ring

Postby ajhbike » Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:26 am

I like the side plates. The plate I am talking about is in the same picture, Jim. It is in between the tire and the grill. I can't swear that it is 1/2" but it is at least 3/8"

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Re: D Ring

Postby Urbish » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:38 am

ajhbike wrote:I like the side plates. The plate I am talking about is in the same picture, Jim. It is in between the tire and the grill. I can't swear that it is 1/2" but it is at least 3/8"


Yeah, I don't think I'd use that as a tie-down point. You could probably get away with it, but I don't think it's designed to take a big vertical load, only lateral. Although clicking through a quick google image search, I see plenty with rings and chain hooks bolted to plates attached to that point.

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I'd be interested in seeing ANY photos of B's, C's, H's or M's that had an implement connected to the front wheel pedestal. Seems to me that it was a rarely used attachment point.
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Re: D Ring

Postby Jim Becker » Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:04 pm

Here is an eBay listing for a C disk plow that uses it.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/IH-Internationa ... 1814014851
Here is thread on the Red Power site with a couple pictures (near the top) of a B cultivator that uses it.
http://www.redpowermagazine.com/forums/ ... tors-look/
Here is a B disk plow that uses it.
IMG_3011s.JPG

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Re: D Ring

Postby Urbish » Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:04 am

Jim Becker wrote:Here is an eBay listing for a C disk plow that uses it.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/IH-Internationa ... 1814014851
Here is thread on the Red Power site with a couple pictures (near the top) of a B cultivator that uses it.
http://www.redpowermagazine.com/forums/ ... tors-look/
Here is a B disk plow that uses it.
IMG_3011s.JPG


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Re: D Ring

Postby ajhbike » Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:10 am

So I guess it is pretty substantial to be able to connect implements

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Re: D Ring

Postby Urbish » Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:26 am

ajhbike wrote:So I guess it is pretty substantial to be able to connect implements


None of those implements hang off of the tab. The only load those implements put on the tab is lateral (left/right) with 'lightweight' linkages hanging off of it. I still wouldn't recommend using it as a tie down point. But if you'd like to give it a shot, go for it.
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Re: D Ring

Postby ajhbike » Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:55 am

Nah, that ship sailed once I brought it home. The only miles that thing is going to get is with me in the seat. I am more curious about its potential use to do light pulls or mount a winch. Note this guys collection on YouTube...3 minutes in they talk about the ring

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUMnzWudWtU


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