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I think some of you have miss read. I have another tractor that i will use for the round baler. I just want to get the H going to use the sickle mower on. Other wise the other tractor, Allis Chalmer 170 diesel does double duty, sickle mower and baler. And i have to constantly switch the 2 back and forth plus whatever other prodject comes up.
I know the 170 will not handle a large baler but all i want to make are 4x5 anyway.
I know the 170 will not handle a large baler but all i want to make are 4x5 anyway.
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Re: WIDE FRONT ?
George Willer wrote:GILLES wrote::o MY LAND IS ON A MONTAIN SIDE, I WAS TINKING STABILITY
GILLES
Gilles,
That's a good plan. Many don't understand why, but the wide front does help stability. Setting the rear wheels out helps even more. Stability comes at the sacrifice of maneuverability but for sloping terain it's a good trade. Safety is far more important than ease.
2 Busy wrote:thats why all my tractors have wide fronts, hills,dips some of these hills is spooky with a wide front. it would'nt take much to tip a narrow over in places.
This has been discussed at length many times in the past with no final agreement. But I can't let this pass without at least stating my dissenting opinion.
IMHO, the illusion of greater stability with a wide front end is mostly that, an illusion. If it wouldn't take much to tip a narrow over, it wouldn't take much more to tip a wide over.
I don't intend to make this a long discussion again.
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Re: WIDE FRONT ?
Jim Becker wrote:George Willer wrote:GILLES wrote::o MY LAND IS ON A MONTAIN SIDE, I WAS TINKING STABILITY
GILLES
Gilles,
That's a good plan. Many don't understand why, but the wide front does help stability. Setting the rear wheels out helps even more. Stability comes at the sacrifice of maneuverability but for sloping terain it's a good trade. Safety is far more important than ease.2 Busy wrote:thats why all my tractors have wide fronts, hills,dips some of these hills is spooky with a wide front. it would'nt take much to tip a narrow over in places.
This has been discussed at length many times in the past with no final agreement. But I can't let this pass without at least stating my dissenting opinion.
IMHO, the illusion of greater stability with a wide front end is mostly that, an illusion. If it wouldn't take much to tip a narrow over, it wouldn't take much more to tip a wide over.
I don't intend to make this a long discussion again.
Jim,
We've voiced our opinions several times in the past and we still don't agree. Safety is very important to me and I don't believe in anyone except Eval Knievel taking unnecessary chances with conditions that could be dangerous. That's why I promote WFE for safety. My opinion isn't based on illusions... it's based on physics and geometry. Either you understand or you don't. The margin between 90% certainty of overturning and 105% certainty shouldn't be taken lightly.
The model I use is a static one, but a dynamic model would show an even greater difference.
You KNEW I couldn't resist a reply!
George Willer
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The most affectionate creature in the world is a wet dog. Ambrose Bierce
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Apparently there are those that have forgotten. Here again, it can be done, it just takes money
The H can easily handle the lifting heavy weight. And its not hard to about double the power either. There are kits to go up to 172cu. The Saginaw can lift way more than the tractor can handle but 1500lbs is a pretty easy load for it. More and you'll need added extra weight up front. Actuall lifting capacity is over 6000lbs at the draw bar.
The H can easily handle the lifting heavy weight. And its not hard to about double the power either. There are kits to go up to 172cu. The Saginaw can lift way more than the tractor can handle but 1500lbs is a pretty easy load for it. More and you'll need added extra weight up front. Actuall lifting capacity is over 6000lbs at the draw bar.
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WK,
Thanks for posting those pics. Fantastic setup!!
KETCHAM,
I mowed the fields with an H for years. It got so that about in the middle of summer it would start missing and I would have to clean #3 spark plug. After that it ran great for the rest of the year.
Larry
Thanks for posting those pics. Fantastic setup!!
KETCHAM,
I mowed the fields with an H for years. It got so that about in the middle of summer it would start missing and I would have to clean #3 spark plug. After that it ran great for the rest of the year.
Larry
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I actually find the H quite nimble. I once borrowed a 300 utility and I hated it. I could not menuver like the H and operating the hitch was cumbersome. My H steers real nice, turns on a dime, has the hydraulic power of a 100HP tractor and and all is tight and smooth. It has pressure down, power top link, dual remotes. It can boom pole 1200lbs. I would have to spend quite alot of money on a tractor that could pull and lift like that H does. Yes it does have a rather high center of gravity but so far that hasn't posed a problem for me.
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After 3 spinal surgeries, I can't climb on the tall tractors and they have became usless to me, My H just sits in the shed cause I cant use it. 404 and 504 are a little better for me but still gonna have to weld steps on the platforms to help get on them. (need to trade serveral tractors for something I can use)
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