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I now own a Super A-1!
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I now own a Super A-1!
It was late getting in last night, so I will post a picture later. I went to Bailey, NC yesterday evening and looked at a Super A-1. The tractor is not perfect, but casting codes, etc. look to be right for a late '54. It's in the neighborhood of 600 tractors from the very last.
It is a hard-used farm tractor. I think that it has caught some borderline abuse in the past. It had a woods belly mower under it most recently. Engine has a slight tick, but starts well. Oil pressure is low, but there. I have a feeling that tick is rod/main bearing related. In other words, woretheheckout! Transmission is noisy, too. I think it'll be a fun, long-term project.
This is the fourth Super A-1 I have seen with my own eyes. I know of two within thirty minutes' drive of me right now. I think one of them is considered to "just be another Super A." I don't know, but I have a theory that when the Super A-1's came out, most of them ended up in eastern NC when they were new.
FYI, the Super A-1 was the last generation Super A. IH called them a "Code 2 Super A." It was sort of a cross between a Super A and the upcoming Farmall 100. It has a C-123 engine instead of a 113, equipped with a water pump, and a taller radiator. This results in slightly different sheet metal (especially the grille) from the Super A, the gas tank sits just a bit higher off the Touch Control unit than on a Super A. I want to find out "officially" why IH made these. Was it to use up extra parts, test a "new" engine, fill in until the 100 was officially ready, or what??
Of course, the best part of the afternoon/evening was sharing a celebratory supper @ Outback in Goldsboro with my wife on our way home from the "hunt."
Al
It is a hard-used farm tractor. I think that it has caught some borderline abuse in the past. It had a woods belly mower under it most recently. Engine has a slight tick, but starts well. Oil pressure is low, but there. I have a feeling that tick is rod/main bearing related. In other words, woretheheckout! Transmission is noisy, too. I think it'll be a fun, long-term project.
This is the fourth Super A-1 I have seen with my own eyes. I know of two within thirty minutes' drive of me right now. I think one of them is considered to "just be another Super A." I don't know, but I have a theory that when the Super A-1's came out, most of them ended up in eastern NC when they were new.
FYI, the Super A-1 was the last generation Super A. IH called them a "Code 2 Super A." It was sort of a cross between a Super A and the upcoming Farmall 100. It has a C-123 engine instead of a 113, equipped with a water pump, and a taller radiator. This results in slightly different sheet metal (especially the grille) from the Super A, the gas tank sits just a bit higher off the Touch Control unit than on a Super A. I want to find out "officially" why IH made these. Was it to use up extra parts, test a "new" engine, fill in until the 100 was officially ready, or what??
Of course, the best part of the afternoon/evening was sharing a celebratory supper @ Outback in Goldsboro with my wife on our way home from the "hunt."
Al
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Re: I now own a Super A-1!
Nice find Al. That is one tractor I would be forced to consider digging deep for if I came upon one. Best of luck with the project.
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Re: I now own a Super A-1!
Does the A-1 have A-1 stamped on the serial number plate and do you know where the serial numbers started for the A-1.
Jim
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Re: I now own a Super A-1!
Jim Reid wrote:Does the A-1 have A-1 stamped on the serial number plate and do you know where the serial numbers started for the A-1.
Jim
This may be helpful, Jim
http://www.tractordata.com/farm-tractors/006/3/6/6369-farmall-super-a-1.html
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Re: I now own a Super A-1!
Yes. Super A-1s started with 356001. This one is 357xxx. My tag has been painted over, the numbers were deep enough they show up good but can't make out much of the FAA-1. (Regular Super A was FAA) Looks like all the casting codes are Z-codes, (my worst fear--that we'd get there to look at it, and it would have a bunch of stuff broke and replaced with the wrong codes) and the engine number is correct. First engine number for the Super A-1's was FCM 206628, mine is higher, didn't write it down but like 208xxx.
In case the font is not clear, this is a Super A-1 (A-One) not an A-I. ("A-eye")
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A right Spiffy lookin' machine--well worth the restoration time and $$$. If you can spare the time, occasional updates on progress would be most appreciated
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THANKS Bob and A for the info.
Jim
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Bill E Bob wrote:A right Spiffy lookin' machine--well worth the restoration time and $$$. If you can spare the time, occasional updates on progress would be most appreciated
In some ways, it looks better than it probably actually is, mechanically. I already have a lot of projects in the hopper, so it will probably be a good while before I start on it for sure. I am actually going to let it be a ginuea pig tomorrow---we have 4 days of school before exams start and we are basically done with the required material so I am going to let one of my classes learn how to perform a compression test on it, and see if they can isolate the cause of the miss it has. This is the same class that is working on the '39 A I drug home in January. Since it was stuck, they didn't get much chance to do any diagnostics before they started taking stuff apart. Now with this, they can. I might even see if I can get the health occ. teacher to let me borrow a stethoscope to see if we can pinpoint that "tick." Although, I probably won't tell her what we're doing with it!
First order of business is a decent battery cable from the battery to the starter. Someone has "cheated" and put an 8 volt battery on it, and used a cable that I swear makes you think of #12 copper wire--it's small. It was all the previous owner could do to get it to make connection and turn the starter Saturday. In the meantime, I think I will try to accumulate some parts, so when the time comes we'll be ready.
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Let us pray for farmers and all who prepare the soil for planting, that the seeds they sow may lead to a bountiful harvest.
Celebrating 75 years of the Super A: 1947-2022
Let us pray for farmers and all who prepare the soil for planting, that the seeds they sow may lead to a bountiful harvest.
Celebrating 75 years of the Super A: 1947-2022
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Re: I now own a Super A-1!
I still have your 2 point carry all here.
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Re: I now own a Super A-1!
Thanks, Brandon.....I keep hoping for a nice Cub Express but so far no luck.....
Al
Al
White Demo Super A Restoration Updates
Let us pray for farmers and all who prepare the soil for planting, that the seeds they sow may lead to a bountiful harvest.
Celebrating 75 years of the Super A: 1947-2022
Let us pray for farmers and all who prepare the soil for planting, that the seeds they sow may lead to a bountiful harvest.
Celebrating 75 years of the Super A: 1947-2022
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Re: I now own a Super A-1!
I showed the students how to do a compression test today. #1 was the lowest with 100 psi! The rest were around 120-125. I must say, I am a bit surprised.
Al
Al
White Demo Super A Restoration Updates
Let us pray for farmers and all who prepare the soil for planting, that the seeds they sow may lead to a bountiful harvest.
Celebrating 75 years of the Super A: 1947-2022
Let us pray for farmers and all who prepare the soil for planting, that the seeds they sow may lead to a bountiful harvest.
Celebrating 75 years of the Super A: 1947-2022
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Re: I now own a Super A-1!
nice find, Al! it would make a nice companion for my Super AI....
sounds like you won't need a sleeve and piston kit, just bottom end work.
sounds like you won't need a sleeve and piston kit, just bottom end work.
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artc wrote:nice find, Al! it would make a nice companion for my Super AI....
sounds like you won't need a sleeve and piston kit, just bottom end work.
I don't know, but I must say the compression readings have me hopeful. However, the #4 plug was oily. I wonder if maybe somebody put a teaspoon of oil in each cylinder to raise readings. Still, I would think a sick top end wouldn't give readings that high even with a shot of oil. And also that could be the "missing" cylinder. It does not have copper plug wires on it and the cap looks pretty nasty. I think I will do a standard tuneup on it, putter around a bit, and then test again. With the bottom end ticking, I am sorta scared to putter around much.
Al
White Demo Super A Restoration Updates
Let us pray for farmers and all who prepare the soil for planting, that the seeds they sow may lead to a bountiful harvest.
Celebrating 75 years of the Super A: 1947-2022
Let us pray for farmers and all who prepare the soil for planting, that the seeds they sow may lead to a bountiful harvest.
Celebrating 75 years of the Super A: 1947-2022
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In working clothes:
1950 cub, 1948 cub, 1941 A, 1948 H, 1963 B414, 1958 240U, 1947 Oliver 60 industrial, Oliver 70 industrial. IH 450, 1963, another 1948 cub, 1946 I6 with Trogan front blade. - Location: CT, Middletown
Re: I now own a Super A-1!
let us know what you find. i love these mysteries.
'If they're tappin', they're not burnin'
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