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Noisy gears
I opened up the shifter cover today to look around. Cleaned the oil holes (front one appeared to be blocked) I noticed that going downhill, there is no noise at all. As soon as the tractor starts to "pull" there is a terrible whine. It seems to be the same way in all gears. I have read alot on here, but I am not well versed on these trannys. I know straight cut gears will have some whine, but not this much. I flushed it and filled it last year, and other than some crud in the flow channels going to the front and rear oil holes (which I cleaned out) everything looks good, clean, and without corrosion. Any thoughts?
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Re: Noisy gears
cubguy47 wrote:Does it make the same noise under load in reverse?
as best I remember it does
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Re: Noisy gears
I have had reverse idler gears cause those symptoms before. I have also had what I initially thought was gear noise but found out it was loose lug bolts on the wheel and/or the wheel center mounting bolts to the rim were loose, just something else to consider.
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Re: Noisy gears
Sounds more like the finals to me. Remove covers and look for metal maybe..
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Re: Noisy gears
Update. It is much more noticeable in 2nd gear than any other. All other gears whine about the same amount...not that loud. 2nd is LOUD.
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Re: Noisy gears
This is probably your 2nd gear noise....
I tore down my parts tractor transmission due to an ungodly howl from it in first and reverse. Second wasn't as bad - maybe it didn't seen that bad because first was SO bad. That particular transmission had failed 1/R slider and the 2nd gear on the 2/3 slider to go along with bearings getting close to end of life - the front ball bearings were pitted and the diff preload was gone. Tractor had been rode hard in its life. It's now doing rehab mowing the yard.
I tore down my parts tractor transmission due to an ungodly howl from it in first and reverse. Second wasn't as bad - maybe it didn't seen that bad because first was SO bad. That particular transmission had failed 1/R slider and the 2nd gear on the 2/3 slider to go along with bearings getting close to end of life - the front ball bearings were pitted and the diff preload was gone. Tractor had been rode hard in its life. It's now doing rehab mowing the yard.
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Re: Noisy gears
I certainly have to remove the shifter cover again and look more closely. Funny thing is, I seldomly use 2nd gear. I plow and cultivate in 1st, and if I am moving around I use third. I even pull the hayride in first (lots of kids aboard). Thanks for the picture, now I know what I am looking for, and where the wear locations are likely on the gears.
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Re: Noisy gears
I also have an example of one with the splines wallowed out....that will cause it too....
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