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Galvanized Rims
As part of the restoration of Rex '48. Princess '55 received the rims from Rex '48. I got to looking at the 1955 rims today, finding that the only rust is on the bolt brackets that hold it to the hub. I took some 320 grit paper (cause it was laying around) and easily removed a light powdery - talc colored residue from the rims. They shine now like new where they've been sanded.
So here's the question. Do you feel I can just get this powder off and clear coat the rims, rather than spraying them gray? I know, I know I vowed no more paint questions - But I could not help myself....
Thanks all, Ken
So here's the question. Do you feel I can just get this powder off and clear coat the rims, rather than spraying them gray? I know, I know I vowed no more paint questions - But I could not help myself....
Thanks all, Ken
Ken
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Re: Galvanized Rims
i would use some self etching primer first, dont think clear would adhere to bare metal.
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Re: Galvanized Rims
When I redid my '53 I had the rims sandblasted (the only part I didn't prepare myself) because I had always heard that paint wouldn't adhere to galvanize. I don't know if that is true or not but I didn't want to find out the hard way. I've seen cold galvanizing spray in a rattle can if that might be a help to touch up the previously rusty places.
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Re: Galvanized Rims
I've tried the cold galvanized spray cans before. Don't waste your time with it in my opinion. Just looks like gray primer
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Re: Galvanized Rims
I wonder if Zinc Chromate primer would be a good choice before you paint I don't know, but thought I would throw it out there. A staple of aviation finishes for decades.
http://www.colorserver.net/history/hist ... romate.htm
http://www.colorserver.net/history/hist ... romate.htm
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Re: Galvanized Rims
zinc chromate is a very good primer. i stopped using it when dupont started selling variprime self etching primer. you would still wash the metal with metal prep before using the zinc chromate, the other primer eliminated that step so it was a bit faster to use the dupont primer.
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Re: Galvanized Rims
Rob - from this article I can see why the Zinc Chromate primer works. It seems any Alkyd paints and primers react with the zinc. I found the embedded link interesting and a good read. I'll get some photos of the rims and post for your opinions on best approach with these rims.
Ken
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Ken
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Re: Galvanized Rims
Why not get them hot dipped galvanized just like when they were new? I have a friend that checked into it and found it was fairly cheap.
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Re: Galvanized Rims
Just some food for thought here. My 77 longstripe is in all original paint and decals. Absolutely no evidence of any non-factory paint or touch-up. The rear rims are a very smooth galvanized finish, topped with a coat of what is now a gray looking paint. I'm not sure what color the paint started out as, but it is definitely factory applied. I'll try to get a photo and post to this thread.
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Re: Galvanized Rims
ricky racer wrote:Why not get them hot dipped galvanized just like when they were new? I have a friend that checked into it and found it was fairly cheap.
They were not hot dipped originally. It was more of an electroplating process from what I can understand.
I would just spray them with the caseIH silver and be done with it.
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Re: Galvanized Rims
Super A wrote:I would just spray them with the caseIH silver and be done with it.
Al
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1955 Farmall Cub #190769
1961 Cub Cadet #16509
1975 Cub Cadet 1250H
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Attachments: Woods 42F Fast Hitch, L38 Disc Fast Hitch, F11 Plow Fast Hitch, Land Plow, Snow Plow, Grader Blade, Planter w/Fertilizer, Cultivators, Hilling Disks, Sickle Bar Mower(2), IH 7' Sickle Bar Mower, Flail Mower and 5' International Belly Mower. - Circle of Safety: Y
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Re: Galvanized Rims
Just a follow-up for the forum.
[urlhttp://ctgalv.com/]This company Connecticut Galvanizing[/url] will Acid Strip the rims and hot dip galvanize (I know that's not original) for $283 minimum charge for up to 700 pounds. I figure I could do a small army of Cub rims and my H rims all in one trip for this minimum charge. The IH Silver is looking better all the time.
Thanks everyone.
[urlhttp://ctgalv.com/]This company Connecticut Galvanizing[/url] will Acid Strip the rims and hot dip galvanize (I know that's not original) for $283 minimum charge for up to 700 pounds. I figure I could do a small army of Cub rims and my H rims all in one trip for this minimum charge. The IH Silver is looking better all the time.
Thanks everyone.
Ken
Pleasant View Farm - Est. 1799
1930 Farmall Restoration Project
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Re: Galvanized Rims
Here's the photo.
The lighter color is the bare galvanized finish. The darker is the grayish paint. As you can see, the galvanized finish is quite smooth. Today's hot dipped galvanized finish would not be. I'd go with sandblasting and paint.
The lighter color is the bare galvanized finish. The darker is the grayish paint. As you can see, the galvanized finish is quite smooth. Today's hot dipped galvanized finish would not be. I'd go with sandblasting and paint.
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Re: Galvanized Rims
I wire wheeled the paint off my rims and had them painted; that was ten years ago and they still look great! Just saying
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Attachments: Woods 42F Fast Hitch, L38 Disc Fast Hitch, F11 Plow Fast Hitch, Land Plow, Snow Plow, Grader Blade, Planter w/Fertilizer, Cultivators, Hilling Disks, Sickle Bar Mower(2), IH 7' Sickle Bar Mower, Flail Mower and 5' International Belly Mower. - Circle of Safety: Y
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Re: Galvanized Rims
I just read this thread again from beginning to end. As usual the myriad of responses please me because it's so diverse, yet it confuses me cause there are so many choices. I'll keep reading and post pics when I am done.
Now here's a related question for you people in the know.
What causes the fine powder on the galvanized rims? It's very, very fine like confectioners sugar, but an off-white yellowish color.
Just curious.
Now here's a related question for you people in the know.
What causes the fine powder on the galvanized rims? It's very, very fine like confectioners sugar, but an off-white yellowish color.
Just curious.
Ken
Pleasant View Farm - Est. 1799
1930 Farmall Restoration Project
My Restoration Project - FCUB '48 - Rex
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1930 Farmall Restoration Project
My Restoration Project - FCUB '48 - Rex
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