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Rear oil seal - spaghetti strainer?
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Rear oil seal - spaghetti strainer?
I put in a new rear oil seal when I rebuilt the engine and it's leaking like a sieve. Rondell told me that somewhere along the line, people were commenting on how the new seals don't fit that well. Come to think of it, I didn't need to press it into the rear cover nearly as hard as I needed to do the front. Should I have cauled this seal in place?
"Henry" 1948 Farmall Cub
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I had tried 3 yimes before I got it right.
First of all the new seals are slightly smaller...my first mistake. What I finally did ws use the High Temp (Black) permatex. I dried the housing thoroughly installed the seal and then peened the housing around the seal OD. I then let it dry. I re-installed with a new seal housing gasket and new pan gasket and it worked perfectly!
Good luck! It is not something you want to do every day or very often.
Bill
First of all the new seals are slightly smaller...my first mistake. What I finally did ws use the High Temp (Black) permatex. I dried the housing thoroughly installed the seal and then peened the housing around the seal OD. I then let it dry. I re-installed with a new seal housing gasket and new pan gasket and it worked perfectly!
Good luck! It is not something you want to do every day or very often.
Bill
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Well you're right about that. I actually think I have some high temp gasket sealant from a chimney job I did. I can't bear the thought of disassembling the trac again. Maybe I'll install a picking eye into the joist of my shed this time to make the job easier rather than jockeying two 1,000 lb halves on jack stands.
Thanks.
Thanks.
"Henry" 1948 Farmall Cub
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Rear Seal Plate Repair
Scott,
I have repaired quite a few of these plates over the past 6+ years and have yet to have a repaired one leak.
I bore out the housing for a slightly larger diameter seal and apply the "black" permatex when pressing in the new seal. (I use the same brand of seal as purchased from Case/Ih only a larger diameter).
I usually have 1 of the repaired plates on hand at any given time and I sell them for $80 each outright or $65 each and you send me your old one. This price includes shipping and a new gasket. I also give a guarantee of 1 year on the repaired plate.
The last time I priced the plate from Case/Ih it was $130, the seal was $15 and the gasket was $3 (this was 3+ years ago).
I sold a repaired one to a fellow member back in September and he is very pleased with the repair.
I do not know if the new seals are smaller in diameter or if all the heating and cooling cycles of the engine over the years have had an adverse effect on the bore of the plate. The plate being of aluminum alloy and the engine block being of cast iron and the seal body being of steel means they all have a different expansion and contraction rates.
Hope this information is helpful!
Mark
I have repaired quite a few of these plates over the past 6+ years and have yet to have a repaired one leak.
I bore out the housing for a slightly larger diameter seal and apply the "black" permatex when pressing in the new seal. (I use the same brand of seal as purchased from Case/Ih only a larger diameter).
I usually have 1 of the repaired plates on hand at any given time and I sell them for $80 each outright or $65 each and you send me your old one. This price includes shipping and a new gasket. I also give a guarantee of 1 year on the repaired plate.
The last time I priced the plate from Case/Ih it was $130, the seal was $15 and the gasket was $3 (this was 3+ years ago).
I sold a repaired one to a fellow member back in September and he is very pleased with the repair.
I do not know if the new seals are smaller in diameter or if all the heating and cooling cycles of the engine over the years have had an adverse effect on the bore of the plate. The plate being of aluminum alloy and the engine block being of cast iron and the seal body being of steel means they all have a different expansion and contraction rates.
Hope this information is helpful!
Mark
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Thanks Mark,
We just got some snow overnight so it's apparently time to switch gears, mount the grader and put Henry to some work. Warmer weather's approaching toward mid-week which might be the time to do the split. Let me open it up and see what the problem is first. Maybe the seal was installed backwards or, maybe not inserted far enough. I dunno.
We just got some snow overnight so it's apparently time to switch gears, mount the grader and put Henry to some work. Warmer weather's approaching toward mid-week which might be the time to do the split. Let me open it up and see what the problem is first. Maybe the seal was installed backwards or, maybe not inserted far enough. I dunno.
"Henry" 1948 Farmall Cub
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